<div dir="ltr"><div> Dear All, Could´nt we consider economy itself through a metaphor of selforganizing information system ? The capitalist economy would just be one its possible "Programs" ( the 'winner' up to this point of history) implanted (by whom and how?) as a selfreplicative logic of permanent growth, regulated by devices that measure ‘outputs’ according to the quantity of a ('fetish') measuring value: money ?? (maybe that is the ‘rationale’ for the demand of abolition of money in the Scottish proposition) A crisis as of 2008´s would represent a 'momento de lucidez' (in spanish) or a crisis of momentaneous conscience of the permanent fetichization process through which the whole system works and reproduces itself. Sorry for the disgression, but the temptation for a commentary is too great, Best, Eduardo </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">2013/11/8 Z. Karvalics László <<a href="mailto:zklmaildelivery@gmail.com" target="_blank">zklmaildelivery@gmail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div lang="HU" vlink="purple" link="blue"><div>Dear Jakob,do you mean this one? Red Plenty Platforms<a href="http://www.culturemachine.net/index.php/cm/article/download/511/526" target="_blank">http://www.culturemachine.net/index.php/cm/article/download/511/526</a> Best Laszlo <div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">From: Jakob Rigi [mailto:<a href="mailto:rigij@ceu.hu" target="_blank">rigij@ceu.hu</a>] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:57 PM To: <a href="mailto:mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au" target="_blank">mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au</a>; <a href="mailto:discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net" target="_blank">discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net</a> Subject: [ICTs-and-Society] Red Plenty by Nick Dyer-Witheford</div></div> <div> Hi All,</div> <div>Just finished the reading the "Red plenty" by Nick Dyer-Witheford. It incites revolutionary aspirations with the most cogent arguments. It is a kind of poetry of reason. Nick summarizing the debate of cyber communism to date, imagines his own version of such a communism, which to my mind is also the most realistic and complex version. </div> <div>best </div> <div>Jakob </div> <div> </div></div></div> _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list <a href="mailto:Discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net">Discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net</a> <a href="http://lists.icts-and-society.net/listinfo.cgi/discussion-icts-and-society.net" target="_blank">http://lists.icts-and-society.net/listinfo.cgi/discussion-icts-and-society.net</a> </blockquote></div> -- <div dir="ltr"><div>Eduardo Andrés Vizer, Dr. </div> <div>Investigador del Instituto Gino Germani </div> <div>Profesor Consulto - Universidad de Buenos Aires</div> <div> </div> <div> "At the end, what is worth is how well you lived, how well you loved, and how well you let go."</div> <div> </div> <div> </div></div> </div>