Hi everyone<div><br /></div><div>I remember a similar debate a year ago when someone wrote a blog post about the Berlin conference, mentioning that OII was an early non-US centre (come to think of it it must have been an OII blog) and others made the same kind of arguments i.e. "there were others before". The response of the blog's author is mine also : what he-she/I was/am trying to say is that in terms of international "recognition" and putting across a strong institutional "brand", or "identity", fairly or not, it seems clear that OII somehow managed to become more _visible_ than other, equally worthwhile centres. My point was not about actual research, innovation, etc because as Ursula points out below, it's all connected anyway.</div><div><br /></div><div>cheers</div><div><br /></div><div>Mathieu</div><div><br /><span>On 01/07/13, <b class="name">Ursula Huws </b> <ursulahuws@analyticaresearch.co.uk> wrote:</span><blockquote cite="mid: <F3F919572B46254094AB206E180F135D04A3F64F96B2@ANALYTICA-SRV.analytica.local" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div class="mimepart text html"><span xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><p><meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type" /><meta content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)" name="Generator" /><style></style><table><tbody><tr><td lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><p></p><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This seems to be a particularly pointless argument to be having. Scholars in a variety of disciplines have been studying the internet since the early 1990s. In many cases this built on earlier research on ‘socio-technical systems’, the ‘information society’ and numerous other designations. To bring these discussions together under the broad heading of ‘internet studies’ is useful. To pretend that in so doing anyone has invented a new field of study is fatuous nonsense. We all stand on the shoulders of our predecessors. A failure to recognise this is a sign, not of originality, but of blinkered vision (possibly combined with an over-inflated sense of self-importance).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ursula Huws<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> discussion-bounces@lists.icts-and-society.net [mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.icts-and-society.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Z. Karvalics László<br /><b>Sent:</b> 07 January 2013 13:30<br /><b>To:</b> 'Niels Ole Finnemann'; 'Mathieu ONeil'; discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net<br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ICTs-and-Society] Uppsala conference report<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Collegues,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just for the record, as a part of the landscape:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Other dedicated, systematic social science focused research on Internet and society has been started around 2000 in research institutes, devoted to information society research in Tampere (2001) and Budapest (1998). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Laszlo Z. Karvalics<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="HU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="HU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Niels Ole Finnemann [<a href="mailto:finneman@imv.au.dk">mailto:finneman@imv.au.dk</a>] <br /><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 07, 2013 1:17 PM<br /><b>To:</b> Mathieu ONeil; <a href="mailto:discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net">discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net</a><br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ICTs-and-Society] Uppsala conference report<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks a lot for these interesting accounts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I have a very small correction however. In the opening it is said <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“Internet studies have historically developed in the United States. The Oxford Internet Institute (OII) was the first Internet research centre to be launched in Europe, in 2001.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br />This is not quite correct as we initiated a Center for Internet Research in September 2000 at Aarhus University <span style="color:#212121">in order “to promote research on the social and cultural functions and meanings of the internet”.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">Prior to that we had a series of conferences on internet studies.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The center still exist and you can an overview of its history and activities at <a href="http://cfi.au.dk/" target="1">http://cfi.au.dk/</a><span style="color:#1F497D"> - for the early history: <a href="http://cfi.au.dk/news/2000/" target="1">http://cfi.au.dk/news/2000/</a></span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Of course the OII have been much more influential, but anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Niels Ole Finnemann</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Fra:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.icts-and-society.net">discussion-bounces@lists.icts-and-society.net</a> [<a href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.icts-and-society.net">mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.icts-and-society.net</a>] </span><b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">På vegne af </span></b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Mathieu ONeil<br /><b>Sendt:</b> 7. januar 2013 12:09<br /><b>Til:</b> <a href="mailto:discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net">discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net</a><br /><b>Emne:</b> Re: [ICTs-and-Society] Uppsala conference report<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA">Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA">In case you missed it, here is another account of the conference, recently published in InMedia:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA">Mathieu O'Neil, "Internet Studies in Europe. Symposium on Internet and Society, 25-28 October 2011, Humboldt University, Berlin; ICTs and Society Conference, 2-4 May 2012, Uppsala University, Uppsala".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><a href="http://inmedia.revues.org/489#article-489" target="1">http://inmedia.revues.org/489#article-489</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA">cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><br />Mathieu<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA"><br />On 01/07/13, <b>Christian Fuchs </b><<a href="mailto:christian.fuchs@uti.at">christian.fuchs@uti.at</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA">Dear colleagues,<br /><br />Please find below a link to a report on the Uppsala ICTs & Society conference.<br /><br />Best, Christian<br /><br />Fuchs, Christian. 2012. Conference Report: The 4th ICTs and Society Conference: Critique, Democracy and Philosophy in 21st Century Information Society. Nordicom Information 34 (3-4): 89-99.<br /><a href="http://fuchs.uti.at/wp-content/NI.pdf" target="l">http://fuchs.uti.at/wp-content/NI.pdf</a><br /><br />_______________________________________________<br />Discussion mailing list<br /><a href="mailto:Discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net">Discussion@lists.icts-and-society.net</a><br /><a href="http://lists.icts-and-society.net/listinfo.cgi/discussion-icts-and-society.net" target="l">http://lists.icts-and-society.net/listinfo.cgi/discussion-icts-and-society.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA">--<br />****<br />Dr Mathieu O'Neil<br />Adjunct Research Fellow<br />Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute<br />College of Arts and Social Science<br />The Australian National University<br />email: mathieu[dot]oneil[at]anu[dot]edu.au<br />web: <a href="https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/o-neil-m" target="1">https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/o-neil-m</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center"><span lang="DA"><hr align="center" noshade="" size="1" style="color:#A0A0A0" width="100%" /></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="DA">A(z) üzenetben nem található vírus.<br />Ellenőrizte: AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com" target="1">www.avg.com</a><br />Verzió: 2013.0.2805 / Vírus adatbázis: 2637/6013 - Kiadás dátuma: 2013.01.06.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></p></span></div></blockquote>--<br signature="separator" />****<br />Dr Mathieu O'Neil<br />Adjunct Research Fellow<br />Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute<br />College of Arts and Social Science<br />The Australian National University<br />email: mathieu[dot]oneil[at]anu[dot]edu.au<br />web: https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/o-neil-m</div>