[ICTs-and-Society] Pre-Conference Online Discussion

Gilson Schwartz gilson.schwartz at gmail.com
Thu Jan 19 22:48:27 PST 2012


Dear Louis and friends,

Your concept of "productive peer communities" as well as the moral/survival
issues involved as well as foundations for a critical discourse for a new
political economy of digital emancipation is very much the perspective of
the City of Knowledge, created some 12 years ago at the Institute of
Advanced Studies of the University of São Paulo.

This experimental "language pattern" lab has evolved into a social
incubator and design house connecting the concentrated knowledge of the
largest public university in Brazil to social groups, projects and more
intelligent communities - productive in a creative sense.

We have called this new value creation (and thus survival as well as moral)
framework "iconomics" and our next step is a large-scale and global
operation of "creative currencies" to be traded locally as well as online.

This is a critical experiment in the social design of value that seems to
be an applied and constructive contribution to "digital emancipation".

We have implemented dozen of local projects in different areas of Brazil
and the City is now also a regional Latin American hub for the "Games for
Change" initiative (www.gamesforchange.org and www.gamesforchange.org.br).

Is the iconomic paradigm a post-liberal ideology? Should we replace "oikos"
for "eikon" if we really want to understand the differences between
machines, animals and human beings?

Underlying and pressing issues as the vast majority of the population is
managed as garbage or cattle.

Best regards,

Gilson Schwartz
City of Knowledge
www.cidade.usp.br





On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts
<louis at ageofpeers.com>wrote:

> Thanks, Khalid, for the prompt and introduction of the list.
>
> About me: I used to "lead" the OpenOffice.org Project community for about
> 11 years, until the code and much else was handed over to the Apache
> Software Foundation; I continue to be active there, and invite others here
> to participate. See http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>
> But my interest now lies with establishing productive peer communities and
> ensuring that they are at the least locally sustainable. I mean by this
> that they do not necessarily depend upon the good will (read: commercial
> and self-serving interest) of a remote contributor. That sort of power
> relation tends to reinscribe neoliberalism, and as we have seen with the
> continuing collapse of the financial house of cards initiated in 2008 or
> so, such arrangements are designed locally and temporally insular: locally
> uncaring and shortsighted.
>
> Given the burdens of the future the past has thrust upon us, like global
> climate change and the grotesque legacies of colonialism, we really have to
> think longterm and always whether the work we do as a community (locally
> grounded, ethereally networked) is sustainable. It's not a moral thing,
> exactly, except in the broadest sense. I see it more as a question of
> survival.
>
> But if the key, as I see it, is the formation of productive communities,
> how does one go about devising them? Clearly, there are many ways, and some
> are scripted better than others. I would submit that there is no "best
> practices," rather, there are strategies of listening and communication per
> locale, and though there may be gross similarities among the strategies and
> techniques, there are also huge differences in the value each is
> apportioned by the people who actually end up composing the effective
> communities. For instance, as is well known, in Brazil, Orkut ended up
> being popular--but hardly anywhere else. Not clear why. In Japan, Facebook
> continues to fail--and we can guess for cultural reasons. (But such reasons
> are often enough simply rationalizations, "Just so" stories.)
>
> I'd be interested in learning more from others on the list….
>
> Cheers,
>
> Louis <- based in Canada.
>
> -
>
> Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD
> Age of Peers
>
>
> On 2012-01-09, at 11:56 , khalid abu arja wrote:
>
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